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Old 04-06-2007, 12:28 PM   #1
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It's going to be hard to find help when you post on a forum as you would chat on AIM. Regardless, I'll try to help you.

What "Water War: Submerged" does is make the starting map camera bounds be the main area where everyone starts in. This will make the minimap be accurate to what the map is. However, while making the terrain, the mapmaker doubled the map area so he could make the underwater terrain. Afterwards, he shrunk the camera bounds to the normal area, but kept the actual map size the same. Then, when a hero casts submerge, triggers make the camera bounds for that player switch to the underwater area, move the hero to the underwater area, and center the camera on the hero.

Most mapmakers can figure it out from there, as the specifics are just the region placement and exact trigger functions. If you honestly need me to give you a step-by-step exact process for the minor details, you need to first learn the basics of the World Editor, as if you plan on making a map to be released on battle.net, you should at least know the basics, almost all of which can be found in the tutorials section of this site.
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simply set a players camera bounds to a region. (rect in JASS)

For GUI, i think the action is under "camera".

That will force the player to look within that region. Click B in the world editor to see the default camera bounds. (notice how they aren't as big as the map itself?)
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Old 04-07-2007, 07:44 AM   #4
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haha it would be really cool if you turned down the gravity in an underwater map. I just had that thought.
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simply set a players camera bounds to a region. (rect in JASS)

For GUI, i think the action is under "camera".
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Um... can u show me the triggers in jass so I can copy it down as i do not know how to use jass. im a GUI user ><, or a demo map which shows me???
I don't flame much, but... Use. Your. Brain.

He told you where to look, now go use those two organs in your head that allow you to read text on a computer screen.

The GUI actions are categorized, for pete's sake!
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Pardon the rant... I need to vent. This is only somewhat related to this particular thread.

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I'm fucking tired of people posting in the triggers & scripts and general development forums looking for handouts, while at the same time posting like they have no brain in their head.

"How can you do _____?"... So i do my best to explain it to them. The people that piss me off are not the ones that don't get it, but the ones that are unwilling to try to take the information i have provided, and attempt to make their own fucking map. In this particular thread, I tell someone the category to find an action under, and how to use it... And look at the type of responses we (not just me) get.

When someone answers you, try to learn to fish for your damn selves. "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day; Teach a man to fish, feed him for a life time" If you are unwilling to take the information given to you and try it for your selves, GTFO. If you do try it for yourselves, and fail to get it to work, thats not at all bad. Thats part of the learning proses.

But don't come back here a post like an idiot, for example, asking someone to do it for you. TELL people what you tried, what you don't understand, and go from there. WE ARE NOT PSYCHIC. You have to help us understand your issue and where you are having trouble, so we can actually help you, instead of asking a bunch of stupid questions that help us understand what you want in the first place.

When you're starting a thread, FUCKING READ IT FIRST. Have yo communicated what you want to do? Have you communicated what issues you are having? Have you typed in a clear and easy to read fashion? Are there allot of typos in your post? Are all terms that may not be general knowledge to the people in the forum you a posting in defined? Are you asking for a handout?

Thats one thing that REALLY pisses me off. The people who, when they can not understand something, simply ask for someone to do it for them. Personally, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to try and help the person understand how to do it for themselves. But fuck, that gets tiering. Especially when people are unwilling to learn, and JUST want a handout.

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Someone report this post for me, i can't do it myself. If you don't know why, read what I said again. Not the swear words and rudeness (the reason for reporting it), but the content and feeling of my message. (The reason i want a message that should be reported to be reported.)

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This is the very basics of problem solving. What are you doing? What is supposed to happen? What is happening instead? The very first step is to define the problem. Go back into Worldedit and figure that out.
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Here's a checklist. Have you:
  • Made a map?
  • Created a region?
  • Created a trigger?
  • Added an event to the trigger?
  • Added any actions to the trigger?
  • Added the aforementioned action to said trigger?
  • Changed the "region" field to reflect that of the region you created?
  • Saved your map?
  • Tested the correct map?
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Huh. Almost makes me wish I had a girlfriend, to take advantage of today (wait, no, that's not what I meant... I mean, take advantage of the fact that it is international women's day... gah, never mind).
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well dude i tried it ffs.but it fails for some reason i did it on a 35 35 dirt map

Great, he did it on the smallest map size, AND I assume that he placed the rect INSIDE the DEFAULT camera bounds >_>
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...but it fails...

Great description of your problem again there. pfft.
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I'm sorry, can you translate that into english? I don't speak retardese.
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No he is right, retardese.
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Pardon me: I meant readable english:


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ok as u guys know how do i remove the above of water war minimap the terrian above i wanna make it to black just like water war, water war the top l and bottom are black in colour but mine is not help please
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Your spells are mostly ignored because they are not very cool so we aren't very excited to review/approve them, but you are incredibly persistent and won't give us an excuse to graveyard it. That is generally what results in a resource being ignored for a long time.

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Huh. Almost makes me wish I had a girlfriend, to take advantage of today (wait, no, that's not what I meant... I mean, take advantage of the fact that it is international women's day... gah, never mind).
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Readme
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1. Read your post. Is it typed in a way that is easy to understand? Are terms that are not known to all defined? Is it riddled with typos?

I honest to God read it four times and made no progress.
Something about yours being black and theirs isn't... But what the hell is "black" and where?
Elaborate, please.

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