New hosting system

Dorelian · 10-17-2004, 07:31 AM

We have decided to change our hosting system. Details about the new system can be viewed here: http://www.wc3campaigns.com/hosting.php

This means that every currently hosted project will have to reapply. Go to the link above to find out how to reapply. Not everyone will be rehosted, but you will be given a week to backup everything from your FTP.

We hope you will enjoy the new system.
- WC3Campaigns Administration

NOTE: Finished project do NOT need to reapply.

The_Skullpitter · 10-17-2004, 06:27 PM

I for one am very pumped about this.
Not only do we get the honour of simulating what it would be like to be treated like pawns and see what it would be like to get condescended like newbies, I personally also get to experience the sheer JOY that is backing up a total of 416 threads and 8316 posts across 4 forums!
Thank you so much for showing me how much we mean to you!
I love you guys too.

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-wipes a thick layer of congealing sarcasm from his lips-

Draco · 10-17-2004, 06:36 PM

Your forum won't be deleted. There is a pretty good chance that if you are hosted now nothing will happen.

John_Drake · 10-17-2004, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco

Your forum won't be deleted. There is a pretty good chance that if you are hosted now nothing will happen.

Well, that's certainly a lot better than what we thought at first.

Bring on the changes in that case!

The_Skullpitter · 10-17-2004, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco

Your forum won't be deleted. There is a pretty good chance that if you are hosted now nothing will happen.

Yes, but you see, I don't trust you rotten bastards, so I'm backing up anyway.
After all, these are the people who put a character limit on signatures that INCLUDES THE URLS TO IMAGES. Who knows what you might do to my poor old forum?

Nepotists.

35263526 · 10-17-2004, 07:50 PM

Hehe, this thing really made me get the hell off my ass and stop slacking. Good idea to weed out the inactive, although Skullpitter does kinda have a point.

republicola · 10-17-2004, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Skullpitter

Yes, but you see, I don't trust you rotten bastards, so I'm backing up anyway.
After all, these are the people who put a character limit on signatures that INCLUDES THE URLS TO IMAGES. Who knows what you might do to my poor old forum?

Nepotists.

Aren't the moderators supposed have a positive attitude about the site?

The_Skullpitter · 10-17-2004, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by republicola

Aren't the moderators supposed have a positive attitude about the site?

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...bwahahahahahahaha!!!

...whoa, that was too good.
No, seriously, I wouldn't brake for old ladies with baby carriages after viewing this site...
...on a GOOD day!

...bwahahahahaha!

So, 'Dor, this not the level of professional response you were hoping for?

Iron_Ian · 10-17-2004, 11:42 PM

Hrmph, really don't enjoy having to 'reapply'. Though TTOA is basically done, so I'm hoping you guys will just leave my FTP intact. I don't have anything I need to back up anyway, so if it gets deleted I can just reapply and upload stuff from my harddrive again.

Jarin · 10-20-2004, 12:54 AM

My thoughts on this.. even though they probably won't be heard:

A system such as this does indeed make it easier on the Admins to pick out who's working and who's not, as well as control which projects they want to get rid of without doing it directly and in person. Personally, I think the hosted projects now are worse than ever, which makes this a good idea, in a way. 60% of the projects have little to no progress with each week that passes, which does indeed make it seem very pointless to host them in the first place. But don't get me wrong, I still don't think you should make all projects (excluding finished) reapply because you've got a new system. Sure, it'll take a couple extra hours to 'transfer' them over to the new system, but does that mean they should have to take extra measures to backup their FTP and reorganize? If that's the case, then I think Wc3C has its motives for hosted projects wrong. The apparent reason this site hosts the projects is so the projects themselves can have space to organize and show off their work, and in turn, they bring users to the site by advertising and outside linking, which the project leaders may not realize. So all in all, they're actually doing a favor for Wc3C by doing so, yet you force them to reapply and reorganize nonetheless. It's great to see improvements to the site, but this is one thing that, in my opinion, is completely useless if you pull through with it.

Dorelian · 10-20-2004, 11:19 AM

"I still don't think you should make all projects (excluding finished) reapply because you've got a new system. Sure, it'll take a couple extra hours to 'transfer' them over to the new system, but does that mean they should have to take extra measures to backup their FTP and reorganize? If that's the case, then I think Wc3C has its motives for hosted projects wrong"

Many don't even have ftp's, many of the ones that do don't use them, and they've been given a week to backup. I think you're looking for holes where there are none.

"The apparent reason this site hosts the projects is so the projects themselves can have space to organize and show off their work, and in turn, they bring users to the site by advertising and outside linking, which the project leaders may not realize."

What? you're saying we host projects only to get new members? we're the bigest site by far yet we want more people, I think you should look at your user title to see who has hidden reasons for writing that long commentary.
Since you say we use the projects in our own interest, we wouldn't be doing ourself any favour if we had them reapply, which we are doing. You contradicted yourself in your own words. :)

Have a nice day, and thank you for proving yourself wrong.

Jarin · 10-20-2004, 09:32 PM

Ah, but that's where you're wrong, Dorelian. I'm not hiding my motives to advertise my site; I do it freely and openly. I'm not afraid to admit the fact that my community is small and in need of participation; Wc3C was once like that as well. And I'm looking for no argument when I say this, but the main reason this site is flooded with so many unintelligent 'noobs', as some call them, is because you'll (and yes, Dorelian, I'm speaking directly to you) host any project that waves a bit of work in front of your face. With that in mind, more and more noobs flood to the site, thinking they can get the same chance to be in the spotlight with their unqualified work. I have proof to back this up as well; I asked for hosting for a project some time back, with only the slightest lick of work. I had a few lousy screenshots and very little physical material, not even so much as a background story, yet you hosted our project nonetheless. For a week and a half it remained idle, with a clearly stated thread that the project had failed. Now it took you that long to notice that you had a dead project, even when the news was right in your face. And you call that organized?
The projects you're hosting now do indeed bring traffic to the site, but perhaps you yourself don't realize that. Just google for all outside links to this site, and 50% of them are pertinent to a project hosted here, yet you say you do this of your own good will. If hosting projects was not beneficial to the site in the least, why waste your time to host them to begin with? No, Dorelian, it is not I that's been proven wrong, I've merely stated facts and opinions that you feebly try to contradict with your unsupported opinions. And on a note, my opinions are unsupported as well, but if I cared, I wouldn't be posting this.

Dorelian · 10-21-2004, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarin

Ah, but that's where you're wrong, Dorelian. I'm not hiding my motives to advertise my site; I do it freely and openly. I'm not afraid to admit the fact that my community is small and in need of participation; Wc3C was once like that as well. And I'm looking for no argument when I say this, but the main reason this site is flooded with so many unintelligent 'noobs', as some call them, is because you'll (and yes, Dorelian, I'm speaking directly to you) host any project that waves a bit of work in front of your face. With that in mind, more and more noobs flood to the site, thinking they can get the same chance to be in the spotlight with their unqualified work. I have proof to back this up as well; I asked for hosting for a project some time back, with only the slightest lick of work. I had a few lousy screenshots and very little physical material, not even so much as a background story, yet you hosted our project nonetheless. For a week and a half it remained idle, with a clearly stated thread that the project had failed. Now it took you that long to notice that you had a dead project, even when the news was right in your face. And you call that organized?
The projects you're hosting now do indeed bring traffic to the site, but perhaps you yourself don't realize that. Just google for all outside links to this site, and 50% of them are pertinent to a project hosted here, yet you say you do this of your own good will. If hosting projects was not beneficial to the site in the least, why waste your time to host them to begin with? No, Dorelian, it is not I that's been proven wrong, I've merely stated facts and opinions that you feebly try to contradict with your unsupported opinions. And on a note, my opinions are unsupported as well, but if I cared, I wouldn't be posting this.

You're pulling stuff out of that dark place where your head seems to be, I never hosted any project similar to what you described, you're trying to show people how bad this site is so they come flooding yours, noobs or not. Are you going to post false evidence ? Be my guest, it will only show how desperate you are.

And, let me ask you this, so what if the projects we host do indeed bring traffic ? Do you want us to put a big banner on the front page telling all project leaders not to advertise their projects, and telling all other sites not to link to our site? we're getting traffic, your site is leeching it.

My unsupported opinions? They're not opinions, they're facts that you fail to understand, so you resort to making stuff up and being stubborn.

If you want to argue, do it by PM, I don't want this in my thread. Closed.

10-17-2004, 06:27 PM	#2
The_Skullpitter Realm Design Executive Project Leader: DoC Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 307	I for one am very pumped about this. Not only do we get the honour of simulating what it would be like to be treated like pawns and see what it would be like to get condescended like newbies, I personally also get to experience the sheer JOY that is backing up a total of 416 threads and 8316 posts across 4 forums! Thank you so much for showing me how much we mean to you! I love you guys too. ... ... ... -wipes a thick layer of congealing sarcasm from his lips- __________________ I had a dream a few months ago. The Pope was teaching Pope Class in my dining room. We all had Pope uniforms and we were sitting at my dining room table. I was like the Pope Class Clown. I got in a huge fight with the Pope, and he made me fail a test out of spite so I threw a fit, ran upstairs, threw my Pope robes down the stairs at him, ran into my room, fell on my ass into my laundry basket and cried. After I woke up I was furious with the Pope for about a week. Then he died.

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10-17-2004, 07:31 AM	#1
Dorelian User Retired Director Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 644	We have decided to change our hosting system. Details about the new system can be viewed here: http://www.wc3campaigns.com/hosting.php This means that every currently hosted project will have to reapply. Go to the link above to find out how to reapply. Not everyone will be rehosted, but you will be given a week to backup everything from your FTP. We hope you will enjoy the new system. - WC3Campaigns Administration NOTE: Finished project do NOT need to reapply.

10-17-2004, 06:36 PM	#3
Draco Need a Stockmarket App? Respected User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,848 Submissions (1)	Your forum won't be deleted. There is a pretty good chance that if you are hosted now nothing will happen.

10-17-2004, 07:50 PM	#6
35263526 User Respected Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,714	Hehe, this thing really made me get the hell off my ass and stop slacking. Good idea to weed out the inactive, although Skullpitter does kinda have a point.

10-17-2004, 11:42 PM	#9
Iron_Ian User Respected User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,704 Submissions (1)	Hrmph, really don't enjoy having to 'reapply'. Though TTOA is basically done, so I'm hoping you guys will just leave my FTP intact. I don't have anything I need to back up anyway, so if it gets deleted I can just reapply and upload stuff from my harddrive again.

10-20-2004, 12:54 AM	#10
Jarin User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 94	My thoughts on this.. even though they probably won't be heard: A system such as this does indeed make it easier on the Admins to pick out who's working and who's not, as well as control which projects they want to get rid of without doing it directly and in person. Personally, I think the hosted projects now are worse than ever, which makes this a good idea, in a way. 60% of the projects have little to no progress with each week that passes, which does indeed make it seem very pointless to host them in the first place. But don't get me wrong, I still don't think you should make all projects (excluding finished) reapply because you've got a new system. Sure, it'll take a couple extra hours to 'transfer' them over to the new system, but does that mean they should have to take extra measures to backup their FTP and reorganize? If that's the case, then I think Wc3C has its motives for hosted projects wrong. The apparent reason this site hosts the projects is so the projects themselves can have space to organize and show off their work, and in turn, they bring users to the site by advertising and outside linking, which the project leaders may not realize. So all in all, they're actually doing a favor for Wc3C by doing so, yet you force them to reapply and reorganize nonetheless. It's great to see improvements to the site, but this is one thing that, in my opinion, is completely useless if you pull through with it.

10-20-2004, 11:19 AM	#11
Dorelian User Retired Director Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 644	"I still don't think you should make all projects (excluding finished) reapply because you've got a new system. Sure, it'll take a couple extra hours to 'transfer' them over to the new system, but does that mean they should have to take extra measures to backup their FTP and reorganize? If that's the case, then I think Wc3C has its motives for hosted projects wrong" Many don't even have ftp's, many of the ones that do don't use them, and they've been given a week to backup. I think you're looking for holes where there are none. "The apparent reason this site hosts the projects is so the projects themselves can have space to organize and show off their work, and in turn, they bring users to the site by advertising and outside linking, which the project leaders may not realize." What? you're saying we host projects only to get new members? we're the bigest site by far yet we want more people, I think you should look at your user title to see who has hidden reasons for writing that long commentary. Since you say we use the projects in our own interest, we wouldn't be doing ourself any favour if we had them reapply, which we are doing. You contradicted yourself in your own words. :) Have a nice day, and thank you for proving yourself wrong.

10-20-2004, 09:32 PM	#12
Jarin User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 94	Ah, but that's where you're wrong, Dorelian. I'm not hiding my motives to advertise my site; I do it freely and openly. I'm not afraid to admit the fact that my community is small and in need of participation; Wc3C was once like that as well. And I'm looking for no argument when I say this, but the main reason this site is flooded with so many unintelligent 'noobs', as some call them, is because you'll (and yes, Dorelian, I'm speaking directly to you) host any project that waves a bit of work in front of your face. With that in mind, more and more noobs flood to the site, thinking they can get the same chance to be in the spotlight with their unqualified work. I have proof to back this up as well; I asked for hosting for a project some time back, with only the slightest lick of work. I had a few lousy screenshots and very little physical material, not even so much as a background story, yet you hosted our project nonetheless. For a week and a half it remained idle, with a clearly stated thread that the project had failed. Now it took you that long to notice that you had a dead project, even when the news was right in your face. And you call that organized? The projects you're hosting now do indeed bring traffic to the site, but perhaps you yourself don't realize that. Just google for all outside links to this site, and 50% of them are pertinent to a project hosted here, yet you say you do this of your own good will. If hosting projects was not beneficial to the site in the least, why waste your time to host them to begin with? No, Dorelian, it is not I that's been proven wrong, I've merely stated facts and opinions that you feebly try to contradict with your unsupported opinions. And on a note, my opinions are unsupported as well, but if I cared, I wouldn't be posting this.