BLPaletter 1.5 - Page 2

PitzerMike · 09-01-2006, 04:12 PM

They DO work for icons, yes.

blu_da_noob · 09-01-2006, 04:25 PM

Wow, didn't realise how powerful this is. Comparison with a random icon: (-> indicates compressed in MPQ)
Original BLP: 12kb -> 10kb
TGA convert for this program: 17kb -> ?kb (didn't test in an MPQ)
Paletted BLP: 10kb -> 3kb

70% size reduction? Yes please. (Note: did it on 128 colour palette, 32 looked crap, could possibly go lower)

BertTheJasser · 09-01-2006, 07:06 PM

@Pipedream: You have enough skill to do so. So do so.

BlackFilter · 09-02-2006, 01:45 PM

Nice tool, very useful.. Love it

Chuckle_Brother · 09-04-2006, 03:05 AM

Sexy.

Mike, you have no moved high into the realm of those people who I love(in a non-sexual way you will need to understand)

Gogo paletted icons. +rep some day

aquilla · 09-07-2006, 05:19 PM

Hoooooooooooo! This tool is awesme for icons and other stuff with low colourcount. I tried it on an icon and used 128 colours. It went from 11kb to 2.5kb and it actually looked better

PitzerMike · 10-01-2006, 05:09 PM

Tiny update to 1.2:
Removed the pause when an image was converted, so that it can be used in a batch.

Pris0n · 10-07-2006, 07:51 PM

i think it would be a very nice tool, but always when i want do open it, there is for 1 second a dos window and then it is closed again and nothing happens
:P
and now?

blu_da_noob · 10-08-2006, 03:23 PM

You have to run it through command prompt (allows options) or just drag and drop a tga file onto the .exe (uses default options).

karukef · 11-03-2006, 10:17 PM

I'm sorry to say this, but running War3 using "low" quality textures will display COMPLETELY garbled up icons for any paletted icon. Using "medium" or "high" have no such issues. I'm guessing it also applies on textures on units etc as well.

So basically, if a map uses paletted icons, the players that were using the low quality textures setting MUST change this to play the map (at least if they want to be SEE icons, which I think they wish to do).

I don't think a lot of people uses low quality textures because it really doesn't affect performance, but this still is a bit annoying. Imagine the distress of a player that enters a map only to have tons of garbled images for icons :/

Ryude · 11-18-2006, 04:02 PM

If you want to convert an entire directory all at one time, make a new text file name it "batchConvert.txt".

Copy and paste the following:

@echo off
for %%f in (*.tga) do BLPaletter "%%f" 128

Then save the file and rename it to batchConvert.bat. Place BLPaletter in the same directory and it will convert all tga files to blp with 128 colors.

shadow1500 · 11-27-2006, 01:45 AM

karu is right, look at this: (Boots added for comparison)

As you can see, low-quality textures makes pallated icons almost invisible.
Perhaps pitzer didn't handle alpha correctly?

Ryude · 11-28-2006, 08:34 PM

Who uses low quality textures? Honestly let's get with the year 2000 ok?

**Vexorian** · 11-28-2006, 09:49 PM

I have a LAN with my parent's comp so we can play when there's a chance and it has to use low quality textures, it would be kind of lame to play a map and one of the computers is able to see icons while the other isn't.

karukef · 11-28-2006, 10:28 PM

Honestly, I have tested this, and low quality textures vs medium quality textures makes virtually no difference. No machine should ever need to use the low quality setting no matter how weak it is.

09-01-2006, 04:12 PM	#16
PitzerMike Alcopops Tools & Tutorials Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,794 Submissions (12)	They DO work for icons, yes. __________________

09-01-2006, 04:25 PM	#17
blu_da_noob Nonchalant Respected User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,933 Submissions (2)	Wow, didn't realise how powerful this is. Comparison with a random icon: (-> indicates compressed in MPQ) Original BLP: 12kb -> 10kb TGA convert for this program: 17kb -> ?kb (didn't test in an MPQ) Paletted BLP: 10kb -> 3kb 70% size reduction? Yes please. (Note: did it on 128 colour palette, 32 looked crap, could possibly go lower) __________________ Read this before asking for help with anything. Ever.

09-01-2006, 07:06 PM	#18
BertTheJasser xyzi - our universe Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 742 Submissions (2)	@Pipedream: You have enough skill to do so. So do so. __________________ Note: Bye... I had a lot of fun here! Special thanks to Vexorian who helped me learn jass, the real jass and always helped me when problems occured, I would call him somehow my mentor. Pipedream, who made amazing Grimoire and helped me acclerating my map (currently at 99% finished, no developement atm). Vote for Linux Ports in general of Blizzard products: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/ibpfl/

09-02-2006, 01:45 PM	#19
BlackFilter User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 33	Nice tool, very useful.. Love it __________________ OUT OF THE SITE FOR A WHILE ----------------- "Black filters White, just as the Light covers the Darkness" ----------------- Last edited by BlackFilter : 09-02-2006 at 01:47 PM.

09-04-2006, 03:05 AM	#20
Chuckle_Brother Oh for the sake of fudge Respected User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 782 Submissions (2)	Sexy. Mike, you have no moved high into the realm of those people who I love(in a non-sexual way you will need to understand) Gogo paletted icons. +rep some day __________________ "...you play a mean banjo"

10-01-2006, 05:09 PM	#22
PitzerMike Alcopops Tools & Tutorials Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,794 Submissions (12)	Tiny update to 1.2: Removed the pause when an image was converted, so that it can be used in a batch. __________________

10-07-2006, 07:51 PM	#23
Pris0n User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 35 Submissions (1)	i think it would be a very nice tool, but always when i want do open it, there is for 1 second a dos window and then it is closed again and nothing happens :P and now?

10-08-2006, 03:23 PM	#24
blu_da_noob Nonchalant Respected User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,933 Submissions (2)	You have to run it through command prompt (allows options) or just drag and drop a tga file onto the .exe (uses default options). __________________ Read this before asking for help with anything. Ever.

11-03-2006, 10:17 PM	#25
karukef User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 388	I'm sorry to say this, but running War3 using "low" quality textures will display COMPLETELY garbled up icons for any paletted icon. Using "medium" or "high" have no such issues. I'm guessing it also applies on textures on units etc as well. So basically, if a map uses paletted icons, the players that were using the low quality textures setting MUST change this to play the map (at least if they want to be SEE icons, which I think they wish to do). I don't think a lot of people uses low quality textures because it really doesn't affect performance, but this still is a bit annoying. Imagine the distress of a player that enters a map only to have tons of garbled images for icons :/

11-18-2006, 04:02 PM	#26
Ryude User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 232	If you want to convert an entire directory all at one time, make a new text file name it "batchConvert.txt". Copy and paste the following: @echo off for %%f in (*.tga) do BLPaletter "%%f" 128 Then save the file and rename it to batchConvert.bat. Place BLPaletter in the same directory and it will convert all tga files to blp with 128 colors.

11-27-2006, 01:45 AM	#27
shadow1500 STARCRAFT II OMFG Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,004 Submissions (9)	karu is right, look at this: (Boots added for comparison) As you can see, low-quality textures makes pallated icons almost invisible. Perhaps pitzer didn't handle alpha correctly?

11-28-2006, 08:34 PM	#28
Ryude User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 232	Who uses low quality textures? Honestly let's get with the year 2000 ok?

11-28-2006, 10:28 PM	#30
karukef User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 388	Honestly, I have tested this, and low quality textures vs medium quality textures makes virtually no difference. No machine should ever need to use the low quality setting no matter how weak it is.

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