Input...and guidence

Tyre · 08-22-2007, 04:27 AM

This is my first map I ever made im trying to make it as good as a new person can so I would like your input like what should be added taken away ext.. problly more add then subtractin tho. heres basically what i got done so far.

Remimber im new so if u give me advice please dont give it to broad like you need more stuff :D

Karzvitch · 08-22-2007, 10:20 PM

Well, it'd be a whole nother project, but in the future start with 'Shallow Water' and use the 'Raise' tool, then plateu to make it all normal land. Make cliffs with the 'Raise' tool and make lakes, rivers, seas, oceans, bays, etc with the Terrain -> Height pallet.

Tyre · 08-23-2007, 07:25 AM

Are u saying I need to make it less flat?? any one elsE?

Vulkarus · 08-23-2007, 09:09 AM

NO! he's not telling you to make it less flat, he's telling you to do this.

About that bridge:
you might raise the lower cliff and lower the higher cliff with the height tools that way the bridge looks less ugly. Also, on that same picture i would have had about 3-4 less cliffs raising up till that fiery mess. A little is good, but there is a such thing as too much of something good.

About the second picture:
The river looks pretty nice. I really like it alot... but
1. that cattail looks overrun by water, it wouldn't grow in a river raging that fast and certainly wouldn't stay that long.

2. with a river running that fast the bank wouldn't be rigid it would be slowly growing outward like it is if you follow my above link

3. those turtles would have been swept away.

but it's still really cool.

About the third picture:
most towns have fences... just a thought. It may help keep out those bandit looking people on the outskirts. but I hardly ever see medieval towns without fences, for bandit, child, and livestock purposes I'm sure.

Tyre · 08-23-2007, 11:24 AM

Thanks im about to redo the river.. add fences and make bridge more even and lower some ledges

Vulkarus · 08-23-2007, 06:46 PM

please keep that first set of pictures up then add the 2nd set. This way we can see which are truly better when all is said and done.

Tyre · 08-24-2007, 04:17 AM

Here is the river.. im still working on the other stuff i will post it when im finish.

anymore ideas or inprovments? o yea im makeing a rpg so wats some good rpg maps stuff lol

The Elite · 08-24-2007, 06:37 AM

about the first one, why is ther lava and grass within 200 (game mesurment)
of each other? why is there red fog on the grass (it suits the firery part but not the grass part) Add some tile variation to the grass on the left hand side of the image and add some lava cracks to the lava. On the lava, add some fire
Thats all for image 1

Vulkarus · 08-25-2007, 05:44 AM

Wow, I didn't even notice he did that... you should probably change the grass to dirt close to the lava. By the way, that river is looking much much better now.

Tyre · 09-01-2007, 10:39 AM

any more advice? or tips?

Pyrogasm · 09-01-2007, 10:53 AM

A crapload more tile variation.

Tide-Arc Ephemera · 09-01-2007, 11:37 AM

In the 3rd picture, the sky is red which looks REALLY awkward, for me anyway.

EDIT! - Is that a marine standing in front of the fountain in the 3rd picture?!

Tyre · 09-01-2007, 08:31 PM

I added fences to the town what yall think

~Void~ · 09-03-2007, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyre

Here is the river.. im still working on the other stuff i will post it when im finish.

anymore ideas or inprovments? o yea im makeing a rpg so wats some good rpg maps stuff lol

You are still using cliffs.
Try to make it more natural looking, I found some examples for you.

EDIT: in the first screenshot the grasses can be found on this website. I do not know the exact link, too lazy to find it, but search grass on models resources or the forums.

08-22-2007, 10:20 PM	#2
Karzvitch User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 180 Submissions (3)	Well, it'd be a whole nother project, but in the future start with 'Shallow Water' and use the 'Raise' tool, then plateu to make it all normal land. Make cliffs with the 'Raise' tool and make lakes, rivers, seas, oceans, bays, etc with the Terrain -> Height pallet. __________________ Newbie gone bad.

08-23-2007, 09:09 AM	#4
Vulkarus User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 26	NO! he's not telling you to make it less flat, he's telling you to do this. About that bridge: you might raise the lower cliff and lower the higher cliff with the height tools that way the bridge looks less ugly. Also, on that same picture i would have had about 3-4 less cliffs raising up till that fiery mess. A little is good, but there is a such thing as too much of something good. About the second picture: The river looks pretty nice. I really like it alot... but 1. that cattail looks overrun by water, it wouldn't grow in a river raging that fast and certainly wouldn't stay that long. 2. with a river running that fast the bank wouldn't be rigid it would be slowly growing outward like it is if you follow my above link 3. those turtles would have been swept away. but it's still really cool. About the third picture: most towns have fences... just a thought. It may help keep out those bandit looking people on the outskirts. but I hardly ever see medieval towns without fences, for bandit, child, and livestock purposes I'm sure. Last edited by Vulkarus : 08-23-2007 at 09:21 AM.

08-23-2007, 11:24 AM	#5
Tyre User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 12	Thanks im about to redo the river.. add fences and make bridge more even and lower some ledges Last edited by Tyre : 08-23-2007 at 11:25 AM.

08-24-2007, 06:37 AM	#8
The Elite For External Use Only Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 672 Submissions (6)	about the first one, why is ther lava and grass within 200 (game mesurment) of each other? why is there red fog on the grass (it suits the firery part but not the grass part) Add some tile variation to the grass on the left hand side of the image and add some lava cracks to the lava. On the lava, add some fire Thats all for image 1 __________________ Goths are nerds that dress like vampires. -Dominant-Male Oh, and wc3c wasn't dying back in 2007 and it isn't now. Our secret is simple: you can't kill the undead ... - Vexorian We're definitely not going to make a G or a PG version of this. It's not PillowfightCraft. - Chris Metzen on the Warcraft Movie Man, we're considered elitist all over the internet. This makes me feel nice and warm inside. - ghenjis Please help! I'll provide no information, you must guess! - Whitehorn

08-25-2007, 05:44 AM	#9
Vulkarus User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 26	Wow, I didn't even notice he did that... you should probably change the grass to dirt close to the lava. By the way, that river is looking much much better now. Last edited by Vulkarus : 08-27-2007 at 06:53 PM.

08-23-2007, 07:25 AM	#3
Tyre User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 12	Are u saying I need to make it less flat?? any one elsE?

08-23-2007, 06:46 PM	#6
Vulkarus User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 26	please keep that first set of pictures up then add the 2nd set. This way we can see which are truly better when all is said and done.

09-01-2007, 10:39 AM	#10
Tyre User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 12	any more advice? or tips?

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