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View Poll Results: Who do you think should win the contest?
DioD 1 4.35%
sas_Skorpion 2 8.70%
xombie 0 0%
TheSecretArts 1 4.35%
Fireeye 3 13.04%
Alexander244 2 8.70%
Toink 1 4.35%
Dark.Revenant 1 4.35%
HyperActive 0 0%
CommanderZ 1 4.35%
Naakaloh 5 21.74%
midiway 2 8.70%
Rising_Dusk 4 17.39%
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:36 AM   #1
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These are the entries for the 9th Spell Making Session in order of submission.
The entries are pretty kickass, not surprised at all.

Spell Making Session #9:
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DioDGlowClick image for larger version

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sas_SkorpionLord of the Flames SpellClick image for larger version

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xombieHoly LightClick image for larger version

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TheSecretArtsMolten CoreClick image for larger version

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FireeyeThunder WhirlClick image for larger version

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Alexander244NecromancyClick image for larger version

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ToinkMagnitude XClick image for larger version

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Dark.RevenantKnights of the Round TableClick image for larger version

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HyperActiveQuarryClick image for larger version

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CommanderZGravestormClick image for larger version

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NaakalohCerulean StormClick image for larger version

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(Spell Making Session #9 Topic)

I think I got everyone in, if I forgot someone please let me know via PM.
13 entries this time around, 6 less than last time but still a heluva turnout.
Nice job guys.

If you're one of the people that didn't post a screenshot or didn't post what your spell's name was, just post it in this topic and I'll update this post accordingly.

Please post a top 3 list of which spells you like most and why you like them most. Even though the session has a poll, the poll won't decide the winner, if nobody posts good reasons. Reasons mean more than the poll.
Last day to vote and post reasons is on 07-23-2007 GMT-5.

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Old 07-17-2007, 02:49 AM   #2
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Damn theres a lot more than i expected..
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Spell Name: Unknown heh lol
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errr.. my spell's name is Molten Core and the picture is in that thread (somewhere)... or could someone be nice and post one for me because i can't because its impossible(i cant take the scrnsht). Im sorry i couldnt have a nice test map because i didnt have enough time to make it. I ran out of time and the end and i couldnt make a test map. please dont grade me on that.

Edit: I voted for myself for three reasons:
1, I really liked my spell, and I think I did a good job at the coding (except the handler functions, but thats because i didnt have enough time )
2, I can't really test the other maps because it is impossible for me to test without WE/War3, but they don't look too amazing.
3, I think that my spell has very nice eyecandy, I though it was just the right amount of eyecandy that fit in very well with the spell basis of flying Fireballs.


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Old 07-17-2007, 03:33 AM   #5
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That's the problem with people posting like 6 posts and I have no idea which one is the real one or what's going on or what the screenshot is or whatever.

@DioD
Wasn't sure and didn't have time to open the map, will update.
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:51 AM   #6
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Why didn't I finish on time... rawr!

I'll be testin' these soon.
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Well, i have reviewed 7 of the entries, but now I am dead tired and hit the physics one... Too much code to go through at this time, so its off to sleep and more review in the morn. Will post all the reviews once I am done then. So far so good.
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I haven't reviewed the code this time. I feel lazy now and ... there are mor competent people to do it.

Glow
- not original (dota's freezing field damaging allies too)
- buggy
- sometimes the explosions started spawning ONLy under the caster
- continues after hero's death

Moltren core
- grrrr, "Just another wc3 map"
- too powerful, mage usually cannot afford to waste all hist mana at once

Mgnitude X
- another "Just another wc3 map"
- not original
- very nice eyecandy, I loved to watch it

Lord of the flames
- nicely done
- why did you put that stupid texttag there? it perfectly spoils my feelings of this spell.
- not very useful ingame (cannot hit anything with it)

Nature's Rif - 3rd Place
- nice spell, love the hand which grabs the trees
- sill...ehm...quite weird (it's probably the cost of originality there)

Cerullean Storm
- very nice spell to play with
- if is wasn't so laggy (when targeted on group of 4+ creeps), I would award it with the first or second place
- could be very useful ingame

Thunder Whirl - 1st Place
- original, nice, useful, funny to play with...for me it is the Mana Weave of this round => First Place
- too many lightnings when cast in the middle of footmen horder...I'd reccomend to remove them

Quarry
- laggy!!!
- too random, sometimes the creeps in melee distance of me survived almost unharmed
- otherwise...i liked it. Boulder spam. Lol.

Stormbreaker - 2nd Place
- nice, simple spell
- maybe too simple (ehm...deja vu...dusk, again, another ward casting something like mad?)
- AI was a bit confused of it

Holy Light
- not original - just AoE purify (?, I don't remember the name, you know what I mean - the nuke/heal paladin has)[color="Yellow"]

Knights of the Round Table
- w000t!!!...loooool...roflmao
- first total all-nukes-in-one spell in wc3
- total sfx spam. total. absolute.

Necromancy
- another all-in-one spell, this time in shotgun faishon
- nice, I just don't like spells which try to do everything
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I'm sorry TheSecretarts, but would you mind explaining what your spell actually does?

I cast it multiple times and the fireballs never hit anything, nor did they go towards where I targeted... they just flew randomly and bugged out sometimes. They were selectable.

EDIT: Same thing with "Glow". I had no idea what the fuck it was supposed to do... nor could I figure out after extensive casts.
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- heh if spell in dota no one can use it's concept?
- nc
- they always come closer to caster in process, longer time - closer to caster, then caster will "burn", how death can stop magical fire?
- nc^

Glow spell supposed to focus nagative energy on casting unit, if spell finished it will become focused on caster and unchanneling.

-bugs? strange, i tested event and data structure, no conflicts allowed.
self damage is not bug too, it damage everything in burst range.
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It is too similiar do that dota spell (almost the same). Including sfx. And...channeled spells are usually interruped by death of the caster.

That bug maybe really wasn't a bug. It maybe was the final phase of the spell...where it came so close to the caster that it was only under him. Then it is not a bug but a bad concept. This should not be.
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I'm sorry TheSecretarts, but would you mind explaining what your spell actually does?

I cast it multiple times and the fireballs never hit anything, nor did they go towards where I targeted... they just flew randomly and bugged out sometimes. They were selectable.

EDIT: Same thing with "Glow". I had no idea what the fuck it was supposed to do... nor could I figure out after extensive casts.

ok, my spell is in the class of "Beserker", your supposed to miss sometimes. It is supposed to be that the caster channels for 5 seconds, then releases fireballs randomly in the direction of the caster's facing for 5 seconds. If they hit, the spell did its job, if they miss, then you faced the downside of a beserker spell. For the bug, try changing the line that looks like (Variables might be different) call Move(RandomInt(25,35),RandomInt(25,35) (Its in the trigger Fireball (i think)) and changing the first set to (10,20) and the second set to (30,40). That should fix the problem. Its because i didnt have time to refine the handling and when two hit the ground simultaneously, it can cause a problem. Or if you feel like it, increase to delay time between fireballs a little higher and change the channel length to be a little longer. The spell should handle itself otherwise so it should all work fine.


@Commanderz didnt you read my testmap note... and it is supposed to be powerful... it supposed to be a all or nothing battle ender, like this story i used as an example earlier:

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"He stared at the convening wizards with utmost contempt. His eyes burned red with anger. He couldn't believe that even they were capable of such treason. His heart burned to stop them, to destroy them for such vile far-fetched plots.

He raised his right hand and muttered a few words that emanated power. Miniature fissures no larger than his finger formed beneath his very legs and from those eerie fissures spewed a burning fire. The more he uttered those words, the larger the flames became, and a bright glow began to emanate from his hand. His voice became more commanding and stern with each continuing word he muttered.

The wizards shrank in fear, they knew their fate had been sealed the moment the fissures appeared. He stopped muttered his words of power. A bright light issued from his hands followed by the unthinkable, at least by most mortals' standards. A slew of fireballs issued from his hands flying in all directions exploding is mass displays of destruction.

After of few seconds of the onslaught, the destruction ceased. All the convening wizards were charred to ashes and the contents of the room were burned, scattered, and destroyed. He was worn from the spell and knew that he would have to escape before others came, and he would be in no condition to fight with all of his mana drained..."

@Ammorth dont veiw all the handlers in my map, just look at SpecEffect 20, 19 and MoveEx20, 19, just so you can see the function and how i handled, then skip the rest and go directly to the bottom.
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I would naver cast a spell for all of my mana with a chance of missing. Result of the battle should not depend on whether your spell misses or not.
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- not original

Where have you seen it before? How was it done? AFAIK I didn't steal any ideas from anyone at all.

Actually, it was going to have more twists to it. I was going to add a knockdown effect, wherein nearby enemy units are knocked down on the ground every 3 seconds for X seconds. But I didn't have much time left.

Well here's my thoughts on my top 3..

3rd - Mine of course, I do want to make it to the top 3 :p plus I have spent and dedicated time to work on it. I may have forgot to do some homeworks, but those don't matter now -_- To be honest, I like it the way I see it and it has nice eyecandy :D

2nd - Knights of the Round Table - I really like how the spell is overall, and I can see how much time Darky spent on it, great job!

1st - Stormbreaker - Very nice, sort of like a different version of Red Death, but this one looks mean too and chain lightnings enemies instead of a normal attack with a moon glaive passive.
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It is not nonoriginal in the way you copied something, its main problem is that it just does damage in aoe and slows enemies. I have seen such ability many times. Namely...sand king's epicenter from dota. It just does flat damage, not single explosions.
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