Ingame Models Idea

[Rao Dao Zao]

Don't bother fixing the BMs, the models are quite repulsive.

[olofmoleman]

Originally Posted by Mc !

I will fix a lil' issue with the Ancient of War's beard

Awesome, keep me updated on wich models you fix and I'll keep you updated too, when a number of models have been fixed I could make a thread in one of the modeling forums with or so...

Originally Posted by Rising_Dusk

Yes, that would work fine.
That way people can just import whatever ones they want to use.

Although, you could still put it inside of an MPQ for easy browsing with Magos' or Wc3Viewer.

Yeah I had that idea too.

Originally Posted by Rao Dao Zao

Don't bother fixing the BMs, the models are quite repulsive.

If it can be improved, then why not? it could make it less repulsive.

[Rao Dao Zao]

Stylistic, not technical, issues. Replace them out-right is the only way.

[Omnikron13]

Sounds a pretty neat idea, I'd like to see some things higher quality and stuffs... And I have heard a lot about bad unwraps.

For the b.net thing, another option might be a batch script.

I figure something like this one that I just wrote: (Yes, I have way to much spare time. =P)

Hidden information: @ECHO OFF REM +----------------------------+ REM | Custom MPQ Switcher Script | REM | ~Omnikron13~ | REM +----------------------------+ if exist "normal.mpq_INSTALL" goto first if exist "normal.mpq_NEW" goto bnet :swap echo Swapping to the official MPQ files... ren "normal.mpq" "normal.mpq_NEW" ren "normal.mpq_OFFICIAL" "normal.mpq" if exist "expansion.mpq" ren "expansion.mpq" "expansion.mpq_NEW" if exist "expansion.mpq_OFFICIAL" ren "expansion.mpq_OFFICIAL" "expansion.mpq" echo ...swap successful" "Frozen Throne.exe" echo When ready the files will be swapped back pause echo Swapping back to the new MPQ files... ren "normal.mpq" "normal.mpq_OFFICIAL" ren "normal.mpq_NEW" "normal.mpq" if exist "expansion.mpq" ren "expansion.mpq" "expansion.mpq_OFFICIAL" if exist "expansion.mpq_NEW" ren "expansion.mpq_NEW" "expansion.mpq" echo ...swap successful goto end :bnet echo The MPQ files appear to be already configured to work with battle.net, this is most likely due to the launching script not being allowed to finish. echo The script will wait for you to finish playing while displaying 'When ready the files will be swapped back'. When you have finished playing, do not quit the script window, please press any key and allow it to swap the files back first. It will inform you when it has done so. echo ~Omnikron13~ echo Swapping the files back now... ren "normal.mpq" "normal.mpq_OFFICIAL" ren "normal.mpq_NEW" "normal.mpq" if exist "expansion.mpq" ren "expansion.mpq" "expansion.mpq_OFFICIAL" if exist "expansion.mpq_NEW" ren "expansion.mpq_NEW" "expansion.mpq" echo ...swap successful goto end :first echo This appears to be the first time you have run the MPQ switching script. echo Currently you should be using the official Blizzard MPQ files, and should -NOT- have deleted, edited or renamed any of them. If you have done any of the above, excluding rename,you will most likely have to reinstall Warcraft III and/or The Frozen Throne. echo This script will swap out the existing Blizzard MPQ files for new ones containing different, hopefully better, data files. When you wish to run Warcraft III, you can continue to do so normally and the new files will be used. However, if you want to play over battle.net, you will have to launch the game using this script, so that the old MPQ files can be temporarily restored. echo ~Omnikron13~ echo Swapping over MPQ files... ren "normal.mpq" "normal.mpq_OFFICIAL" ren "normal.mpq_INSTALL" "normal.mpq" if exist "expansion.mpq_INSTALL" ren "expansion.mpq" "expansion.mpq_OFFICIAL" if exist "expansion.mpq_INSTALL" ren "expansion.mpq_INSTALL" "expansion.mpq" echo ...swap successful goto end :end pause

[BlinkBoy]

hmm, I think that if you set the models in folders inside the wc3 directory, they may load, but i'm not sure if only in WE or in Game also.

Btw, try not to increase the original image size, since most of the models made will be re-edited.

If you wish I can reimport the models to a max format with animations perfectly & everything [xept particles, camera, lights & events].

[Mc !]

Originally Posted by BlinkBoy

If you wish I can reimport the models to a max format with animations perfectly & everything [xept particles, camera, lights & events].

Teach me how to do that and I will give you a cookie

[xXm0rpH3usXx]

i'd like to do that aswell!! unit modifying deluxe and stuff!

how about me fixing the trees? i mean i could make them a bit high polier and more grown...

[olofmoleman]

Oooh, seems a lot are interested...

For the b.net thing, another option might be a batch script.

I figure something like this one that I just wrote: (Yes, I have way to much spare time. =P)

well, if that fixes the problem a replaced mpq might have, then... awesome!

If you wish I can reimport the models to a max format with animations perfectly & everything [xept particles, camera, lights & events].

Maybe you could post a tutorial about it.

how about me fixing the trees? i mean i could make them a bit high polier and more grown...

more detailed models will only be usefull if the whole mpq gets replaced, if we are only going to fix a few models so people can edit them more easily then higher poly models wont be needed, only fixes.
So, I'm curious whether a replacing mpq with fixes and maybe a few prettier models would work without issues, cause if it does, then I'm all for a complete mpq instead of a few separate models.

[Omnikron13]

Originally Posted by olofmoleman

well, if that fixes the problem a replaced mpq might have, then... awesome!

Yeah, it would. You'd just have 2 MPQ files, one official one, and one new one, and the new one would be the default one, and just running the batch file (or a desktop shortcut to the same...) would switch to the old MPQ file and run the game.

One annoying thing is that due to the way WC3 launches, only TFT can be directly launched, through war3.exe, RoC needs the fancier exe with the splash screen to run. The upshot of this with the batch file I created is that you have to 'press any key' in the command console window it creates when you have finished playing to swap them back afterwards. (Or run the batch file again...)

A quick thing I added aswell was a 'first run' section of the batch file where it swaps out the old MPQ for the new one, and tells you how to use the batch script.

Anyway, it's only a draft, and I could easily modify it for any new MPQ, or more complex situation that you might throw at me. =)

P.S. Forgot to say, there is also a quick expansion thingy in the script, which means it could cope with a 4 MPQ situation, with the official TFT MPQ, and a new TFT MPQ, without need of a different script.

[Rao Dao Zao]

Why not just go for an executable MPQ, so you can run that for singleplayer, but run the game normally for b.net?

[Nasrudin]

So, in short, you want to make an entire mpq of some minor edited models for a 4 years old game. Genius.

[Omnikron13]

Originally Posted by Rao Dao Zao

Why not just go for an executable MPQ, so you can run that for singleplayer, but run the game normally for b.net?

Um, I'm not sure what you're talking about...
What is an executable MPQ? =/

[xXm0rpH3usXx]

i guess "minor edited" isn't enough...

how about high res skins then comming along with the new mpq?

[Rao Dao Zao]

Originally Posted by Omnikron13

Um, I'm not sure what you're talking about...
What is an executable MPQ? =/

It's an MPQ, that can be used like an EXE.

[Omnikron13]

Originally Posted by Rao Dao Zao

It's an MPQ, that can be used like an EXE.

Heh, I guess that makes sense... Didn't know there was such a thing...